diff --git a/kiwi_scp/commands/cmd_down.py b/kiwi_scp/commands/cmd_down.py
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+++ b/kiwi_scp/commands/cmd_down.py
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+from typing import List
+
+import click
+
+from .cli import KiwiCommand, KiwiCommandType
+from .decorators import kiwi_command
+from ..executable import COMPOSE_EXE
+from ..instance import Instance, Project
+
+
+@click.option(
+    "-f/-F",
+    "--force/--no-force",
+    help=f"skip confirmation",
+)
+@kiwi_command(
+    cmd_type=KiwiCommandType.SERVICE,
+    short_help="Bring down kiwi services",
+)
+class DownCommand(KiwiCommand):
+    """Bring down the whole instance, a project or service(s) inside a project"""
+
+    @classmethod
+    def run_for_instance(cls, instance: Instance, force: bool = None) -> None:
+        if not force:
+            if not KiwiCommand.danger_confirm(
+                    "This will bring down the entire instance.",
+                    "",
+                    "This may not be what you intended, because:",
+                    " - Bringing down the instance stops ALL services in here",
+            ):
+                return
+
+        super().run_for_instance(instance)
+
+        # TODO net-down
+
+    @classmethod
+    def run_for_existing_project(cls, instance: Instance, project: Project, **kwargs) -> None:
+        COMPOSE_EXE.run(["down"], **project.process_kwargs)
+
+    @classmethod
+    def run_for_services(cls, instance: Instance, project: Project, service_names: List[str], **kwargs) -> None:
+        services = project.services.filter_existing(service_names)
+        existing_service_names = [
+            service.name
+            for service in services.content
+        ]
+        all_service_names_exist = len(existing_service_names) == len(service_names)
+
+        if not existing_service_names and not all_service_names_exist:
+            if not click.confirm(
+                    "Did not find any of those services. \n"
+                    f"Bring down the entire project {project.name} instead?",
+                    default=True
+            ):
+                return
+
+        COMPOSE_EXE.run(["stop", *existing_service_names], **project.process_kwargs)
+        COMPOSE_EXE.run(["rm", "-f", *existing_service_names], **project.process_kwargs)
diff --git a/kiwi_scp/commands/cmd_up.py b/kiwi_scp/commands/cmd_up.py
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+++ b/kiwi_scp/commands/cmd_up.py
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+from typing import List
+
+import click
+
+from .cli import KiwiCommand, KiwiCommandType
+from .decorators import kiwi_command
+from ..executable import COMPOSE_EXE
+from ..instance import Instance, Project
+
+
+@kiwi_command(
+    cmd_type=KiwiCommandType.SERVICE,
+    short_help="Bring up kiwi services",
+)
+class UpCommand(KiwiCommand):
+    """Bring up the whole instance, a project or service(s) inside a project"""
+
+    @classmethod
+    def run_for_services(cls, instance: Instance, project: Project, service_names: List[str], **kwargs) -> None:
+        # TODO conf-copy
+        # TODO net-up
+
+        services = project.services.filter_existing(service_names)
+        existing_service_names = [
+            service.name
+            for service in services.content
+        ]
+        all_service_names_exist = len(existing_service_names) == len(service_names)
+
+        if not existing_service_names and not all_service_names_exist:
+            if not click.confirm(
+                    "Did not find any of those services. \n"
+                    f"Bring up the entire project {project.name} instead?",
+                    default=True
+            ):
+                return
+
+        COMPOSE_EXE.run(["up", "-d", *existing_service_names], **project.process_kwargs)